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Big Fuzz
ACCORD Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.27 05:42:00 -
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Edited by: Big Fuzz on 27/03/2008 05:43:12 Why don't you guys just go spend half as much time camping out at high suicide risk gates and stealing loot as you do arguing on forums?
If you're right that suicide ganking is way too common and wah wah , etc. etc., you'll make a lot of isk while denying gankers their loot.
Oh wait, you won't do that because... hell I don't know why, but you probably won't.
edit: Btw Akita is, as usual, 100% correct.
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Big Fuzz
ACCORD Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.27 06:26:00 -
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Originally by: Terminus adacai Anyone defending such a mechanic has a motive for doing so.
Yep. Mine is that as more and more lazy and/or stupid people die, I make more isk because I'm neither lazy nor stupid.
The bottom line is that it is SO easy not to get ganked it's ridiculous.
People just keep loading up their iteron 3's with 100m of stuff, banging their heads into the same old wall and wondering why they keep getting the same crappy result time & again. Rather than take a few extra minutes to go around the wall they're spending hours upon hours whining for CCP to remove the wall.
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Big Fuzz
ACCORD Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.27 06:45:00 -
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Originally by: Hekilo Tetsatz The Gankers are the first to **** about EVE being a PVP game and rant about 'risk vs. reward', but as evidenced by the alts, and trial accounts, and NPC corpers a good number of the gankers are a great deal more risk averse than the much derided 'carebears'.
This whole alt argument is irrelevant. If you know someone is recycling alts for this you need to petition it. It's bannable. Alt argument dismissed.
BTW: if you're getting popped by noob alts with no skill points you really deserve to die because you put exactly zero effort into avoiding it AND you're on autopilot.
Guys, just spend 2 seconds covering your ass and you won't die. Hell, you can even fly a fully expanded t1 hauler with a ton of value in it with reasonable safety as long as you are at the keys using WTZ.
Is that REALLY so much to ask? Really worth all the time spent complaining? Really?
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Big Fuzz
ACCORD Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.27 06:55:00 -
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Originally by: Terminus adacai
Again, we are not just discussing gate camps. There are those that are engaging in ganking in belts as well. The problem is the current game mechanic that allows gankers to recover losses through insurance.
Hulk, allow me to introduce you to Basilisk. Basilisk, Hulk.
Fleet of hulks are then gankproofed by one nice pilot hanging out in a belt with them.
If you complain about how it sucks so bad that you can't do it solo, etc. etc. Either 1) get some friends and suck it up; 2) train a logistics alt; 3) accept the increased risk of a gank; 4) fly a covetor that isn't worth ganking & make a bit less isk/second.
None of this is too much to ask. All denying insurance payouts to gankers does is raise gankable threshold. We'll be having this SAME argument in a month when people find it suddenly outrageous that it's worth it for an uninsured brutix to gank their (insert whatever current value being used is + 20m) ship.
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Big Fuzz
ACCORD Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.27 07:21:00 -
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Originally by: Imperator Jora'h Edited by: Imperator Jora''h on 27/03/2008 07:01:22
Originally by: Shakuul There are plenty of ways to avoid suicide ganking.
Funny...I see people say stuff like this all the time in threads like this but they never actually mention how it is done...
...2b) If hauler defense < Z-Damage proceed to step 2c else abort 2c) If mods + cargo / 2 > Y-ISK proceed to step 3 else abort
Any other questions you have that I can point out how you answer a few sentences later?
The 100% secure method: Make it so all the stupid people are better targets than me. Lord knows eve is in no short supply of them. Yep, that means don't put a billion isk in a badger. Put a billion isk in a freighter instead.
The 99% secure method: SIT AT THE KEYS AND WARP TO ZERO. Almost everyone who gets suicided is afk.
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